something for all the olde farts to get nostalgic about :-)

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will_s

2007-10-06 06:29:25 UTC

Post by corks
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/6674/hon31od4.jpg

sorry to disappoint but not the slightest

Toosmoky

2007-10-06 07:01:30 UTC

Post by corks
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/6674/hon31od4.jpg

Not bad but the headlights remind me of the Cybermen.

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Work to ride, Ride to Work...
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Jordan

2007-10-06 07:35:56 UTC

Language!
Never has the word "old" had the letter e on the end, in this country.
By Captain Cook's time, English had modernised from "ye olde" version.

Nev..

2007-10-06 11:16:41 UTC

Post by Jordan
Language!
Never has the word "old" had the letter e on the end, in this country.
By Captain Cook's time, English had modernised from "ye olde" version.

Look out Smee, the history police are here. Commander Cook didn't have
computers either. Should we continue this discussion at the monthly
meeting of the Royal Society?

Nev..

Jordan

2007-10-06 22:15:01 UTC

Post by Nev..
Look out Smee, the history police are here.

This thread started out as a history lesson.

Nev..

2007-10-07 05:22:14 UTC

Post by Jordan

Post by Nev..
Look out Smee, the history police are here.

This thread started out as a history lesson.

How is a picture of a brand new bike a history lesson?

Nev..

SmeeMW

2007-10-07 00:31:28 UTC

Post by Jordan
Language!
Never has the word "old" had the letter e on the end, in this country.
By Captain Cook's time, English had modernised from "ye olde" version.

Look out Smee, the history police are here. Commander Cook didn't have
computers either. Should we continue this discussion at the monthly
meeting of the Royal Society?
Nev..

I'm just gonna see how this pans out for the moment
I'm on holidays till tomorrow :-)

BT Humble

2007-10-07 09:08:06 UTC

Post by Jordan
Language!
Never has the word "old" had the letter e on the end, in this country.
By Captain Cook's time, English had modernised from "ye olde" version.

Look out Smee, the history police are here. Commander Cook didn't have
computers either. Should we continue this discussion at the monthly
meeting of the Royal Society?
Nev..

LIEUTENANT Commander Cook!

BTH

John Lamp

2007-10-08 08:32:47 UTC

Post by Jordan
Language!
Never has the word "old" had the letter e on the end, in this country.
By Captain Cook's time, English had modernised from "ye olde" version.

Look out Smee, the history police are here. Commander Cook didn't have
computers either. Should we continue this discussion at the monthly
meeting of the Royal Society?
Nev..

LIEUTENANT Commander Cook!

Well actually, as a non-commissioned entrant to the Navy in the 18th
Century, Master was usually the highest rank possible. However Cook
impressed for a number of reasons, especially the fact that he worked
for it, an almost unheard of thing in those days. The ranks rose as
follows (lowest to highest)

Lieutenant
Lieutenant-Commander
Commander
Captain

Cook was certainly at the rank of Captain by his second voyage, possibly
even his first. The archives are a bit hit and miss!

Cheers
Goaty

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Boxer

2007-10-08 08:50:45 UTC

Post by Jordan
Language!
Never has the word "old" had the letter e on the end, in this country.
By Captain Cook's time, English had modernised from "ye olde" version.

Look out Smee, the history police are here. Commander Cook didn't have
computers either. Should we continue this discussion at the monthly
meeting of the Royal Society?
Nev..

LIEUTENANT Commander Cook!

Well actually, as a non-commissioned entrant to the Navy in the 18th
Century, Master was usually the highest rank possible. However Cook
impressed for a number of reasons, especially the fact that he worked for
it, an almost unheard of thing in those days. The ranks rose as follows
(lowest to highest)
Lieutenant
Lieutenant-Commander
Commander
Captain
Cook was certainly at the rank of Captain by his second voyage, possibly
even his first. The archives are a bit hit and miss!
Cheers
Goaty

However whilst in command of a ship they are all called Captain.

Boxer

John Lamp

2007-10-08 11:47:06 UTC

Post by Jordan
Language!
Never has the word "old" had the letter e on the end, in this country.
By Captain Cook's time, English had modernised from "ye olde" version.

Look out Smee, the history police are here. Commander Cook didn't have
computers either. Should we continue this discussion at the monthly
meeting of the Royal Society?
Nev..

LIEUTENANT Commander Cook!

Well actually, as a non-commissioned entrant to the Navy in the 18th
Century, Master was usually the highest rank possible. However Cook
impressed for a number of reasons, especially the fact that he worked for
it, an almost unheard of thing in those days. The ranks rose as follows
(lowest to highest)
Lieutenant
Lieutenant-Commander
Commander
Captain
Cook was certainly at the rank of Captain by his second voyage, possibly
even his first. The archives are a bit hit and miss!
Cheers
Goaty

However whilst in command of a ship they are all called Captain.

Funny that, we called him "skipper" (when he was in earshot).

Cheers
Goaty

bikerbetty

2007-10-08 12:17:25 UTC

Post by Jordan
Language!
Never has the word "old" had the letter e on the end, in this country.
By Captain Cook's time, English had modernised from "ye olde" version.

Look out Smee, the history police are here. Commander Cook didn't have
computers either. Should we continue this discussion at the monthly
meeting of the Royal Society?
Nev..

LIEUTENANT Commander Cook!

Well actually, as a non-commissioned entrant to the Navy in the 18th
Century, Master was usually the highest rank possible. However Cook
impressed for a number of reasons, especially the fact that he worked for
it, an almost unheard of thing in those days. The ranks rose as follows
(lowest to highest)
Lieutenant
Lieutenant-Commander
Commander
Captain
Cook was certainly at the rank of Captain by his second voyage, possibly
even his first. The archives are a bit hit and miss!
Cheers
Goaty

However whilst in command of a ship they are all called Captain.

Funny that, we called him "skipper" (when he was in earshot).
Cheers
Goaty
--
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\_.--._/ http://www.gorider.cjb.net/ Phone: 0409 512 254
Hear no Evo, See no Evo, Fear no Evo

God forgive me.... I'm hearing......

"Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale, a tale of a fateful trip....
It started from this tropic port aboard this tiny ship...."

Oh, nostalgia.....

betty

John Lamp

2007-10-09 07:38:04 UTC

Post by Jordan
Language!
Never has the word "old" had the letter e on the end, in this country.
By Captain Cook's time, English had modernised from "ye olde" version.

Look out Smee, the history police are here. Commander Cook didn't have
computers either. Should we continue this discussion at the monthly
meeting of the Royal Society?
Nev..

LIEUTENANT Commander Cook!

Well actually, as a non-commissioned entrant to the Navy in the 18th
Century, Master was usually the highest rank possible. However Cook
impressed for a number of reasons, especially the fact that he worked for
it, an almost unheard of thing in those days. The ranks rose as follows
(lowest to highest)
Lieutenant
Lieutenant-Commander
Commander
Captain
Cook was certainly at the rank of Captain by his second voyage, possibly
even his first. The archives are a bit hit and miss!
Cheers
Goaty

However whilst in command of a ship they are all called Captain.

God forgive me.... I'm hearing......
"Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale, a tale of a fateful trip....
It started from this tropic port aboard this tiny ship...."
Oh, nostalgia.....

Nostalgia ain't what it used to be.

Cheers
Goaty

bikerbetty

2007-10-09 08:27:48 UTC

Post by Jordan
Language!
Never has the word "old" had the letter e on the end, in this country.
By Captain Cook's time, English had modernised from "ye olde" version.

Look out Smee, the history police are here. Commander Cook didn't have
computers either. Should we continue this discussion at the monthly
meeting of the Royal Society?
Nev..

LIEUTENANT Commander Cook!

Well actually, as a non-commissioned entrant to the Navy in the 18th
Century, Master was usually the highest rank possible. However Cook
impressed for a number of reasons, especially the fact that he worked
for it, an almost unheard of thing in those days. The ranks rose as
follows (lowest to highest)
Lieutenant
Lieutenant-Commander
Commander
Captain
Cook was certainly at the rank of Captain by his second voyage,
possibly even his first. The archives are a bit hit and miss!
Cheers
Goaty

However whilst in command of a ship they are all called Captain.

God forgive me.... I'm hearing......
"Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale, a tale of a fateful trip....
It started from this tropic port aboard this tiny ship...."
Oh, nostalgia.....

http://youtu.be/qH1UdnZfYh8
Nostalgia ain't what it used to be.
Cheers
Goaty
--

That was faaaaabulous! I was always torn between the two theme songs - the
original one flowed better, but the second one was more "inclusive" <grin> -
and I'd always felt bad that "the rest" had seemed so dismissive of a mere 2
characters.... it's not as if there was a cast of thousands cast away on
that island that they couldn't bother naming!

As a kid I used to love Gilligan's Island! I'd seen the repeats so many
times that could identify the episode within about 2 seconds after the theme
song finished! (scary really...)

betty

John Lamp

2007-10-09 09:52:51 UTC

Post by bikerbetty
As a kid I used to love Gilligan's Island! I'd seen the repeats so many
times that could identify the episode within about 2 seconds after the theme
song finished! (scary really...)

That's quite an admission ... moving in the general direction of away! :)

Cheers
Goaty

bikerbetty

2007-10-09 10:19:03 UTC

Post by John Lamp

That's quite an admission ... moving in the general direction of away! :)
Cheers
Goaty
--

Of course, I've grown up since then...... honest!

betty

Knobdoodle

2007-10-17 10:28:07 UTC

Post by John Lamp
Nostalgia ain't what it used to be.

Deja Vu is though.
--
Clem

BT Humble

2007-10-08 12:31:52 UTC

Post by John Lamp

Post by Nev..
Look out Smee, the history police are here. Commander Cook didn't have
computers either. Should we continue this discussion at the monthly
meeting of the Royal Society?

LIEUTENANT Commander Cook!

Well actually, as a non-commissioned entrant to the Navy in the 18th
Century, Master was usually the highest rank possible. However Cook
impressed for a number of reasons, especially the fact that he worked
for it, an almost unheard of thing in those days. The ranks rose as
follows (lowest to highest)
Lieutenant
Lieutenant-Commander
Commander
Captain
Cook was certainly at the rank of Captain by his second voyage, possibly
even his first. The archives are a bit hit and miss!

Damn you Goaty! I *almost* had him bluffed! ;-)

BTH

John Lamp

2007-10-08 08:12:55 UTC

Post by Jordan
Language!
Never has the word "old" had the letter e on the end, in this country.
By Captain Cook's time, English had modernised from "ye olde" version.

Look out Smee, the history police are here. Commander Cook didn't have
computers either. Should we continue this discussion at the monthly
meeting of the Royal Society?

Well, not in his first voyage anyhow. The Admiralty was still supressing
the Harrison chronometer and insisting on stellar observation for
longditude calculations! Fine on land or on the Thames, bit more of a
challenge on a pitching boat (yes, or yawing or rolling), especially in
the higher latitudes where the chance of a clear sky was about the same
as Port Adelaide's chances in the '07 Grand Final[1].

By his second voyage, they allowed the use of the Harrison chronometer,
grudgingly!

Cheers
Goaty

1. Sorry Johnno!

Marty H

2007-10-06 12:29:00 UTC

Post by Jordan
Language!
Never has the word "old" had the letter e on the end, in this country.
By Captain Cook's time, English had modernised from "ye olde" version.

oh fore fucks sake

meh

Jordan

2007-10-06 21:56:00 UTC

Post by Marty H
oh fore fucks sake
meh

There you go again - language!

Noel

2007-10-07 02:27:59 UTC

Post by Jordan

Post by Marty H
oh fore fucks sake
meh

There you go again - language!

Now don't be too hard on them, they may get all discombobulated.

corks

2007-10-07 01:34:47 UTC

Post by Jordan
Language!
Never has the word "old" had the letter e on the end, in this country.
By Captain Cook's time, English had modernised from "ye olde" version.

ahem,

1. i believe the dutch found wa first before that stinking copy cat cook

2. they were using the word aulde @ olde

now back in your box :-)

Resound

2007-10-07 03:10:02 UTC

Post by Jordan
Language!
Never has the word "old" had the letter e on the end, in this country.
By Captain Cook's time, English had modernised from "ye olde" version.

ahem,
1. i believe the dutch found wa first before that stinking copy cat cook
now back in your box :-)

I'm fairly sure that it was only around the 19thC that people actually
started to get fussy about what was or was not the correct way to spell
anything. So in the 17th and 18th you had old, olde, auld, aulde, elde,
ealde and so on depending upon personal inclination and where exactly you
came from. Some of those spellings may have been a trifle earlier, but you
get the idea.

Jordan

2007-10-07 04:58:51 UTC

Post by Resound
I'm fairly sure that it was only around the 19thC that people actually
started to get fussy about what was or was not the correct way to spell
anything. So in the 17th and 18th you had old, olde, auld, aulde, elde,
ealde and so on depending upon personal inclination and where exactly you
came from. Some of those spellings may have been a trifle earlier, but you
get the idea.

There's some of Cook's journal entries can be seen here:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.ms-ms1

It looks pretty modern.

Nev..

2007-10-07 05:13:17 UTC

Post by Jordan

Post by Resound
I'm fairly sure that it was only around the 19thC that people actually
started to get fussy about what was or was not the correct way to
spell anything. So in the 17th and 18th you had old, olde, auld,
aulde, elde, ealde and so on depending upon personal inclination and
where exactly you came from. Some of those spellings may have been a
trifle earlier, but you get the idea.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.ms-ms1
It looks pretty modern.

You keep writing this stuff like it is relevant to something.

Nev..

Zebee Johnstone

2007-10-07 04:57:48 UTC

In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:10:02 +1000

The explosion in printed matter was the biggie, especially periodicals.
I have bound volumes of The Spectator from the early 1700s with quite
standardised spelling we'd all recognise. (And those damned long S's
which makes them amazingly hard to read...)

Noah Webster wasn't sure about the way Johnson dealt with words, he
thought that Johnsons's dictionary just cemented the problem - there had
been changes in the way many words were pronounced and the langage has
sounds that the Latin alphabet's not good with. So Webster changed some
things when he made his dictionary, leading to the different spellings
in the USA. He couldn't simplify that much though.

As far as I know, "Ye olde" is a Victorian medieval revivalist silliness.
The "Y" is how the letter called "thorn" was represented in some early
printed matter, and "olde" was definitely a way some people pronounuced
"old", modern speech cuts off sounds that used to be pronounced, we
swallow the d, I think they said it more like "old-duh". But the
twee "Ye Olde Whatsit" is Wromantic Wrubbish.

There was a lot of standardisation of grammar in the 1800s, and people
tried to formulate rules to cover the already standard spelling that
had come from a time when things were pronnounced differently, and for
words that came from other languages and then written sometimes as
they were in the original tongue and sometimes as they were pronounced
in England.

Zebee

BT Humble

2007-10-07 09:59:00 UTC

... But the
twee "Ye Olde Whatsit" is Wromantic Wrubbish.

Marvellous people, the Wromans...

BTH

G-S

2007-10-07 11:12:32 UTC

... But the
twee "Ye Olde Whatsit" is Wromantic Wrubbish.

Marvellous people, the Wromans...

Very sporting people they were...

Their colony in what is now England invented the Wrongun you know.

It just wasn't cricket that they abandoned them when those barbarians came!

G-S

John Lamp

2007-10-08 08:40:47 UTC

Post by G-S

... But the
twee "Ye Olde Whatsit" is Wromantic Wrubbish.

Marvellous people, the Wromans...

Very sporting people they were...
Their colony in what is now England invented the Wrongun you know.

Then they sent the wronguns out here ...

Cheers
Goaty

John Lamp

2007-10-08 08:40:08 UTC

... But the
twee "Ye Olde Whatsit" is Wromantic Wrubbish.

Marvellous people, the Wromans...

BEN: Oh, you'll probably get away with crucifixion.
BRIAN: Crucifixion?!
BEN: Yeah, first offence.
BRIAN: Get away with crucifixion?! It's--
BEN: Best thing the Romans ever did for us.
BRIAN: What?!
BEN: Oh, yeah. If we didn't have crucifixion, this country would be in
a right bloody mess.
BRIAN: Guards!
BEN: Nail him up, I say!
BRIAN: Guards!
BEN: Nail some sense into him!
JAILER: [cough cough] What do you want?
BRIAN: I want you to move me to another cell.
JAILER: Ha! [ptoo]
BRIAN: Aah!
BEN: Oh, look at that! Bloody favouritism!
JAILER: Shut up, you!
BEN: Sorry!
JAILER: Huhh. [cough cough]
BEN: Now, take my case. They hung me up here five years ago. Every
night, they take me down for twenty minutes, then they hang me up again,
which I regard as very fair, in view of what I done, and, if nothing
else, it's taught me to respect the Romans, and it's taught me... that
you'll never get anywhere in this life, unless you're prepared to do a
fair day's work for a fair day's pay!
BRIAN: Oh, shut up!
[clank]
JAILER: Ehhh.
CENTURION: Pilate wants to see you!
BRIAN: Me?
CENTURION: Come on!
BRIAN: Pilate? What does he want to see me for?
CENTURION: I think he wants to know which way up you want to be crucified.
BEN: Oh, ha ha ha haa! Ha haa! Nice one, Centurion. Like it. Like it.
CENTURION: Shut up!
BEN: Right. Right. Terrific race, the Romans. Terrific.

Cheers
Goaty

Resound

2007-10-07 11:49:01 UTC

Aha, I didn't know the thorn got printed as "Y". I suppose they didn't want
nasty non-latin orthography cluttering up their presses.

John Lamp

2007-10-08 08:42:28 UTC

Post by Resound
Aha, I didn't know the thorn got printed as "Y". I suppose they didn't want
nasty non-latin orthography cluttering up their presses.

Not precisely a "y"
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_%28letter%29

Cheers
Goaty

Resound

2007-10-08 09:13:06 UTC

Post by John Lamp

Post by Resound
Aha, I didn't know the thorn got printed as "Y". I suppose they didn't
want nasty non-latin orthography cluttering up their presses.

Not precisely a "y"
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_%28letter%29
Cheers
Goaty
--
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Hear no Evo, See no Evo, Fear no Evo

*looks*

*hides in geeky factoid stash*

Jordan

2007-10-07 05:04:53 UTC

Post by corks
1. i believe the dutch found wa first before that stinking copy cat cook
now back in your box :-)

Yes, and in turn the Dutch bought maps of the big south island from the
Portuguese. So what?
Show me a valid instance of "Ye olde" in Australian English, and I'll
get in the box!

bill_h

2007-10-07 08:49:00 UTC

Alright, who's kidnapped Scrok,

that was quite intelligible

either that, or the beer wench is slipping, more beer to Corks,
Betty..

Bill_h

On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 09:34:47 +0800, "corks"

Post by Jordan
Language!
Never has the word "old" had the letter e on the end, in this country.
By Captain Cook's time, English had modernised from "ye olde" version.

ahem,
1. i believe the dutch found wa first before that stinking copy cat cook
now back in your box :-)

corks

2007-10-08 08:48:10 UTC

thank ye thank ye , i do try write the wright words from to time

Post by bill_h
Alright, who's kidnapped Scrok,
that was quite intelligible
either that, or the beer wench is slipping, more beer to Corks,
Betty..
Bill_h
On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 09:34:47 +0800, "corks"

Post by Jordan
Language!
Never has the word "old" had the letter e on the end, in this country.
By Captain Cook's time, English had modernised from "ye olde" version.

ahem,
1. i believe the dutch found wa first before that stinking copy cat cook
now back in your box :-)

l***@gmail.com

2007-10-08 02:29:02 UTC

Post by corks
ahem,
1. i believe the dutch found wa first before that stinking copy cat cook

And, smart folks that they were, took one look and buggered off for
greener pastures.

John Lamp

2007-10-08 08:34:53 UTC

Post by Jordan
Language!
Never has the word "old" had the letter e on the end, in this country.
By Captain Cook's time, English had modernised from "ye olde" version.

ahem,
1. i believe the dutch found wa first before that stinking copy cat cook

And that's overlooking the thriving trepang trade with the Malays in NW
Australia which ran hundreds of years before that!

Cheers
Goaty

Knobdoodle

2007-10-17 10:32:47 UTC

Post by corks
1. i believe the dutch found wa first before that stinking copy cat cook

I don't think Cook EVER found WA!

--
Clem

John Lamp

2007-10-08 08:09:12 UTC

Post by Jordan
Language!
Never has the word "old" had the letter e on the end, in this country.
By Captain Cook's time, English had modernised from "ye olde" version.

And, interestingly the "y" in "ye" is pronounced "th" - it's not the
modern letter y, but the old english letter thorn! Boring isn't it!

Cheers
Goaty

corks

2007-10-08 08:48:43 UTC

so did anybody like the bike after all that ????

Post by corks
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/6674/hon31od4.jpg

bill_h

2007-10-08 11:40:40 UTC

On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:48:43 +0800, "corks"

Post by corks
so did anybody like the bike after all that ????

Post by corks
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/6674/hon31od4.jpg

Would have been nice if it was a twin...

Bill_h

Jordan

2007-10-09 08:18:26 UTC

Post by corks
so did anybody like the bike after all that ????

Yes, mostly. I'd love to have a bike with modern upside down forks one day.
Steel tube diamond frame harks back to ancient motorcycling - nothing
wrong with that.
Like the 4 into 1 exhaust system, but it'd look better in silver finish
(stainless).
Engine styling is just OK. Hate black painted engines, and the top end
looks ordinary. Why can't they make something that looks like a Gilera 4?

Moike

2007-10-09 09:05:41 UTC

Post by corks
so did anybody like the bike after all that ????

Post by corks
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/6674/hon31od4.jpg

Nope. It wouldn't be nice to tour on.

Moike

Biggus.....

2007-10-12 14:02:03 UTC