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super cycles (harley dealer) dyno shoot day .....gotta larf !!!!!
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corks
2006-05-01 00:39:10 UTC
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mega dollar 100ci harley 99hp

mega dollar harley with nos 142hp

stock apart from pipe zx12r - 161hp heheheehehe

other notable mentions

me - r6 - 97.21hp
Nath - benelli 112.4
rob i - vfr800i 97.54hp (farken cahn)

http://s20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/corks67/supercycles dyno day/
corks
2006-05-01 00:40:38 UTC
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http://s20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/corks67/supercycles%20dyno%20day/

this one werks
alx
2006-05-01 01:28:27 UTC
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So what'd the Triumph Rocket III idle at?
Post by corks
mega dollar 100ci harley 99hp
mega dollar harley with nos 142hp
stock apart from pipe zx12r - 161hp heheheehehe
other notable mentions
me - r6 - 97.21hp
Nath - benelli 112.4
rob i - vfr800i 97.54hp (farken cahn)
http://s20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/corks67/supercycles dyno day/
corks
2006-05-01 01:58:29 UTC
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cant remember 122hp ??

the second gruntiiest jap bike was the old gsxr1100 - 136hp
Post by alx
So what'd the Triumph Rocket III idle at?
Post by corks
mega dollar 100ci harley 99hp
mega dollar harley with nos 142hp
stock apart from pipe zx12r - 161hp heheheehehe
other notable mentions
me - r6 - 97.21hp
Nath - benelli 112.4
rob i - vfr800i 97.54hp (farken cahn)
http://s20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/corks67/supercycles dyno day/
Knobdoodle
2006-05-01 12:23:48 UTC
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I wonder if they knew that the power is limited in 1st and 2nd gears so you
have to do the dyno-run in third.
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Clem
"sometimes to fueling is 3 rd gear feels a strange - like its not getting
enuff ful/splutterly" -- Corks.
Post by corks
cant remember 122hp ??
the second gruntiiest jap bike was the old gsxr1100 - 136hp
Post by alx
So what'd the Triumph Rocket III idle at?
Post by corks
mega dollar 100ci harley 99hp
mega dollar harley with nos 142hp
stock apart from pipe zx12r - 161hp heheheehehe
other notable mentions
me - r6 - 97.21hp
Nath - benelli 112.4
rob i - vfr800i 97.54hp (farken cahn)
http://s20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/corks67/supercycles dyno day/
l***@gmail.com
2006-05-01 02:50:35 UTC
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Post by corks
mega dollar 100ci harley 99hp
mega dollar harley with nos 142hp
stock apart from pipe zx12r - 161hp heheheehehe
other notable mentions
me - r6 - 97.21hp
Nath - benelli 112.4
rob i - vfr800i 97.54hp (farken cahn)
What about the torque figures? How many ft-lbs for the 99hp Harley vs
your R6? Also rpm figures for peak hp/torque for both bikes. Not that
I particularly like Harleys (WLA's are ok though), just curious.
corks
2006-05-01 04:25:00 UTC
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well i agree with you about torque , alas they were only puting up hp
figures, thats what i put up

how about a power to weighht ratio then , seeing as most harley weigh a
fucking ton

not a bad day, apart from usual tattoo'd knuckle draggin attitudes , at
least i can appreciate all types pf bikes
Post by l***@gmail.com
What about the torque figures? How many ft-lbs for the 99hp Harley vs
your R6? Also rpm figures for peak hp/torque for both bikes. Not that
I particularly like Harleys (WLA's are ok though), just curious.
l***@gmail.com
2006-05-01 04:36:43 UTC
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Post by corks
well i agree with you about torque , alas they were only puting up hp
figures, thats what i put up
Fairy nuff then.
Post by corks
how about a power to weighht ratio then , seeing as most harley weigh a
fucking ton
True, which is also why they crank out gobs of torque.
Post by corks
not a bad day, apart from usual tattoo'd knuckle draggin attitudes , at
least i can appreciate all types pf bikes
Yep. Did they call the sportsbikes "tupperware" bikes? I think that
was meant to insult me, but I always found it funny, especially when
allowing the HD's to keep up with me to 160kph then opening the
throttle and watching them dissapear in my mirror. Still wouldn't mind
a WLA though...
corks
2006-05-01 05:10:06 UTC
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the harleys went up on the board with model and specs

mine and a couple of others simply went up as "jap"

sigh.......

nuffin our lose any sleep over tho

besides the look on their faces when a moe of less stock "jap" did 160hp,
was well worth it
Post by l***@gmail.com
Yep. Did they call the sportsbikes "tupperware" bikes? I think that
was meant to insult me, but I always found it funny, especially when
allowing the HD's to keep up with me to 160kph then opening the
throttle and watching them dissapear in my mirror. Still wouldn't mind
a WLA though...
l***@gmail.com
2006-05-01 05:48:01 UTC
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corks wrote:
<snip>
Post by corks
besides the look on their faces when a moe of less stock "jap" did 160hp,
was well worth it
Oh yeah!
EffJay R. Yamaha
2006-05-01 04:49:59 UTC
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Post by corks
mega dollar 100ci harley 99hp
mega dollar harley with nos 142hp
stock apart from pipe zx12r - 161hp heheheehehe
other notable mentions
me - r6 - 97.21hp
Nath - benelli 112.4
rob i - vfr800i 97.54hp (farken cahn)
What about the torque figures? How many ft-lbs for the 99hp Harley vs
your R6? Also rpm figures for peak hp/torque for both bikes. Not
that I particularly like Harleys (WLA's are ok though), just curious.
Corks, can I jump in here a minute?

Torque isn't the final word on performance, but if someone wants ots of
torque, all they need to do is find a big thumper. There's a reason why
they're nearly impossible to find anymore, though. I get my grins from
acceleration and great handling, not pulling stumps, and it's horsepower
that accelerates, not torque.

At 205 hp/liter, the R6 is one of the most efficient machines I've ever
ridden. And at something less than 400 pounds wet, with a fantastic
suspension, and 123 hp to help me out of turns, I get my thrills from
mountain passes and river roads with lots of twisties. When you need to
change direction quickly, or stop quickly, or want to go quickly, lightness
is called for. And horsepower. Extra points for great brakes.
l***@gmail.com
2006-05-01 05:47:02 UTC
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Post by EffJay R. Yamaha
Corks, can I jump in here a minute?
Torque isn't the final word on performance, <snip>
No arguments here, just saying that neither is power the final word on
performance, you need a healthy dose of both IMO.
http://www.largiader.com/articles/torque.html

I'm lazy so I ride a thumper and enjoy it lots, I also find the
acceleration adequate. If I want that top end rush instead, then I
ride my RZ500 (absolutely pathetic by modern standards but exhilarating
acceleration nevertheless (especially when the powervalves open at
6,000rpm) by comparison to a 650 single).
FuTAnT
2006-05-02 05:55:47 UTC
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Post by EffJay R. Yamaha
Post by l***@gmail.com
Post by corks
mega dollar 100ci harley 99hp
mega dollar harley with nos 142hp
stock apart from pipe zx12r - 161hp heheheehehe
other notable mentions
me - r6 - 97.21hp
Nath - benelli 112.4
rob i - vfr800i 97.54hp (farken cahn)
What about the torque figures? How many ft-lbs for the 99hp Harley vs
your R6? Also rpm figures for peak hp/torque for both bikes. Not
that I particularly like Harleys (WLA's are ok though), just curious.
Corks, can I jump in here a minute?
Torque isn't the final word on performance, but if someone wants ots of
torque, all they need to do is find a big thumper. There's a reason why
they're nearly impossible to find anymore, though. I get my grins from
acceleration and great handling, not pulling stumps, and it's horsepower
that accelerates, not torque.
At 205 hp/liter, the R6 is one of the most efficient machines I've ever
ridden. And at something less than 400 pounds wet, with a fantastic
suspension, and 123 hp to help me out of turns, I get my thrills from
mountain passes and river roads with lots of twisties. When you need to
change direction quickly, or stop quickly, or want to go quickly,
lightness is called for. And horsepower. Extra points for great brakes.
Me thinks you might benefit from looking at what Power is mathematically.
Contrary to your view torque is quite important, but it's the rate at which
it produces this torque, or the rate of change of torque that gives us the
real kick in the guts.

Power = Torque * Omega (where Omega is the rpm in rad/s)

Anyhoo, you need good torque and the ability to spin the motor up quickly
(ie, well engineered, free breathing, good cam timing, and all that good
stuff) to produce good power.

Anyone who has ridden similar capacity bikes will often wonder why some
bikes feel a lot more powerfull than other even though they show similar
numbers on a dyno. It comes down to how fast the motor spins up and produces
the power. If it's very quick revving you get a much bigger kick in the
pants than a slow revving slug that still may have a lot of power, but just
deliver it in a timely manner.
2006-05-01 06:34:24 UTC
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Post by l***@gmail.com
Post by corks
mega dollar 100ci harley 99hp
mega dollar harley with nos 142hp
stock apart from pipe zx12r - 161hp heheheehehe
other notable mentions
me - r6 - 97.21hp
Nath - benelli 112.4
rob i - vfr800i 97.54hp (farken cahn)
What about the torque figures? How many ft-lbs for the 99hp Harley vs
your R6? Also rpm figures for peak hp/torque for both bikes. Not that
I particularly like Harleys (WLA's are ok though), just curious.
The ZZR would thrash the Harleys in power and torque.... well, perhaps
not the largest of the Harleys, but the majority.

paulh
D16GP5@coldmail.com
2006-05-01 06:04:22 UTC
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Post by corks
mega dollar 100ci harley 99hp
mega dollar harley with nos 142hp
stock apart from pipe zx12r - 161hp heheheehehe
Do the math with resale values....
Post by corks
other notable mentions
me - r6 - 97.21hp
Nath - benelli 112.4
rob i - vfr800i 97.54hp (farken cahn)
http://s20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/corks67/supercycles dyno day/
Nev..
2006-05-01 07:01:57 UTC
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Post by corks
mega dollar 100ci harley 99hp
mega dollar harley with nos 142hp
stock apart from pipe zx12r - 161hp heheheehehe
Do the math with resale values....
That'd explain why Ducatis are so lacking in power compared to their jap
equivalents then...

Nev..
'04 CBR1100XX
J5
2006-05-01 07:50:49 UTC
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Post by corks
mega dollar 100ci harley 99hp
mega dollar harley with nos 142hp
stock apart from pipe zx12r - 161hp heheheehehe
Do the math with resale values....
compared to what ? a Harley ? mega dollars u missed that bie ?
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Post by corks
other notable mentions
me - r6 - 97.21hp
Nath - benelli 112.4
rob i - vfr800i 97.54hp (farken cahn)
http://s20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/corks67/supercycles dyno day/
EffJay R. Yamaha
2006-05-01 14:43:16 UTC
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Post by corks
mega dollar 100ci harley 99hp
mega dollar harley with nos 142hp
stock apart from pipe zx12r - 161hp heheheehehe
Do the math with resale values....
Resale values only matter for something you're willing to resell. Not all
bikes fall into that category.
corks
2006-05-01 15:44:26 UTC
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Do the math with resale values....
who gives a flying fuck about resale values , the dyno wasnt measuring
resale values , it was measuring hp

besides just because some knuckle dragger spends $40k on bike , doesnt means
its worth $40k to anybody else ...... or he gonna get $40k when he sells it
......
G-S
2006-05-01 22:16:06 UTC
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Post by corks
Post by ***@coldmail.com
Do the math with resale values....
who gives a flying fuck about resale values , the dyno wasnt measuring
resale values , it was measuring hp
besides just because some knuckle dragger spends $40k on bike , doesnt means
its worth $40k to anybody else ...... or he gonna get $40k when he sells it
......
Careful corks... your bias is showing *grin*.


G-S
Knobdoodle
2006-05-02 09:26:25 UTC
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Post by corks
Post by ***@coldmail.com
Do the math with resale values....
who gives a flying fuck about resale values , the dyno wasnt measuring
resale values , it was measuring hp
besides just because some knuckle dragger spends $40k on bike , doesnt
means its worth $40k to anybody else ...... or he gonna get $40k when he
sells it ......
He'd probably get more back than if he'd spent it in this year's
GSYZXCBR1000RR... (and a shit-load more than if he spent it on LAST year's
model!).
--
Clem
corks
2006-05-02 14:49:00 UTC
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yes but both would have been cheaper and faster than his $40k meg-wank
!!!!!!!

"Knobdoodle" <***@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:5BF5g.20968$***@news-> He'd probably get more back than if he'd
spent it in this year's
Post by Knobdoodle
GSYZXCBR1000RR... (and a shit-load more than if he spent it on LAST year's
model!).
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Clem
Pisshead Pete
2006-05-02 15:49:35 UTC
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but you still don't get it corks!
Post by corks
yes but both would have been cheaper and faster than his $40k meg-wank
!!!!!!!
spent it in this year's
Post by Knobdoodle
GSYZXCBR1000RR... (and a shit-load more than if he spent it on LAST
year's model!).
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Clem
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Pete ....
The journey IS the destination.
Knobdoodle
2006-05-02 21:18:04 UTC
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If cheaper and faster are your only criterea....
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Clem
(A current Camry would be cheaper and faster than an E-Type Jag or a Shelby
Mustang)
Post by corks
yes but both would have been cheaper and faster than his $40k meg-wank
!!!!!!!
he'd spent it in this year's
Post by Knobdoodle
GSYZXCBR1000RR... (and a shit-load more than if he spent it on LAST
year's model!).
--
Clem
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