english bikes being english bikes

[corks]

gaaah what a fuggen night

caught with with eldavo and dave m (mates) at mcchucks for a cruise

river run south completed no incidents and then to fast eddies at freo for
hot choc and cake.

1030pm come out to head home, neutral light onm, start bike, not in neutral
and it starts to hope forwards and off centre stand "oh*****"

grab clutch leaver in.... "snap" clutch lever snaps at pivot point. :fook"

managed not to drop bike "phew"

el davo races home and bring back tls clutch lever, fit it whoo -hoo start

bike - no go - clutch lever doesnt let clutch out enuff "fook"

next plan, el davo take clutch lever off srv250 and fits tls clutch lever
which doesnt quite line up properly with pivot hole so cant screw it in
"fook"

keep clutch lever with a smaller sized allen key

fit srv250 clutch lever to thruxton works just clutch lever doesnt engage
clutch until at the start of travel ie furtherest away so i have be very
gentle with my gears changes and accelleration as any heavy accleration
causes the
clutch to slip - finally limp home at 2am.

where we then put levers back on srv and i go to jcs (dealer) in the morning
to have a grumble about the quality of triumph clutch levers

not happy

anybody else has a lying neutral light ?????

[Knobdoodle]

X-No-archive: yes
You big sheila scrote! Why didn't ya just trip the cut-out switch with a
bit of stick and then ride it home clutchless?

Shit I rode home two-up, stuck-in-second, clutchless and with a broken left
wrist when I dumped my Triumph!!
--
Clem
(And my Triumph had more cylinders than yours too, so there!!)

corks wrote in message

Post by corks
gaaah what a fuggen night
caught with with eldavo and dave m (mates) at mcchucks for a cruise
river run south completed no incidents and then to fast eddies at freo for
hot choc and cake.
1030pm come out to head home, neutral light onm, start bike, not in neutral
and it starts to hope forwards and off centre stand "oh*****"
grab clutch leaver in.... "snap" clutch lever snaps at pivot point. :fook"
managed not to drop bike "phew"
el davo races home and bring back tls clutch lever, fit it whoo -hoo start
bike - no go - clutch lever doesnt let clutch out enuff "fook"
next plan, el davo take clutch lever off srv250 and fits tls clutch lever
which doesnt quite line up properly with pivot hole so cant screw it in
"fook"
keep clutch lever with a smaller sized allen key
fit srv250 clutch lever to thruxton works just clutch lever doesnt engage
clutch until at the start of travel ie furtherest away so i have be very
gentle with my gears changes and accelleration as any heavy accleration
causes the
clutch to slip - finally limp home at 2am.
where we then put levers back on srv and i go to jcs (dealer) in the morning
to have a grumble about the quality of triumph clutch levers
not happy
anybody else has a lying neutral light ?????

[corks]

jesus christ doesnt anybody carry spare parts these days

just went to jcs to grumble about clutch lever and starting in neutral
problem

none in stock and it'll take 2 days to get here if they have them in stock
over east

oh and that will be $71

grumble about warranty - "ah well - you have to take that up with triumph
australia"

and got given a number to ring

hmmm, so far dealer support hasnt been much different to owning a jap bike -
so much for pride of ownership...........

[Toosmoky]

Post by corks
jesus christ doesnt anybody carry spare parts these days

Funnily enough, I've *never* been able to buy a part across the counter for
the Pig. They never offer to get one in for me either.

Now I shop at http://tinyurl.com/8rbem Jack Lilley in England. Most times
I've had the parts delivered within a week. Online shopping and all that.

Water pump local: $320
Water pump Lilley's $240

[Toosmoky]

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[Conehead]

Post by corks
jesus christ doesnt anybody carry spare parts these days
just went to jcs to grumble about clutch lever and starting in neutral
problem
none in stock and it'll take 2 days to get here if they have them in stock
over east
oh and that will be $71
grumble about warranty - "ah well - you have to take that up with triumph
australia"
and got given a number to ring
hmmm, so far dealer support hasnt been much different to owning a jap bike -
so much for pride of ownership...........

You _do_ know that Triumph Australia is P*t*r St*v*ns, don't you, Corks?

Conehead

[corks]

im gonna plead ignorance here

but is that bad ????????

Post by Conehead
You _do_ know that Triumph Australia is P*t*r St*v*ns, don't you, Corks?
Conehead

[corks]

fuck me

check with dealer re warranty claim and getting starting neutral
checked/fixed

dealer - "oh you'lll have to speak to triumph australia for that "

ring triumph oz - "oh you'll have to take it to the dealer for that "

f********K

[Toosmoky]

Do it yourself Corks. Believe me, one day you'll be thankful you *didn't*
let 'em near your bike...

[corks]

actually apart from bundaberg motorcycles who i bought it off and who were
very helpful (no wa dealer had/would get a yellow thruxton)

the bike has never seen the inside of triumph delaer - my usual mechanic
specialises in late model jap sports bikes but is happy to work on the
thruxton as ive been a good customer and i think he;s a goiod mechanic -
werked on all my previous bikes

Post by Toosmoky
Do it yourself Corks. Believe me, one day you'll be thankful you *didn't*
let 'em near your bike...
--
Toosmoky
Work to ride, Ride to Work...
http://toosmoky.d2.net.au

[Zebee Johnstone]

In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 16 Aug 2005 12:56:02 +0800

Post by corks
fuck me
check with dealer re warranty claim and getting starting neutral
checked/fixed
dealer - "oh you'lll have to speak to triumph australia for that "
ring triumph oz - "oh you'll have to take it to the dealer for that "

So go back to the dealer, mobile phone in hand.

If they say "have to talk to Triumph Oz", you ring Triumph Oz and when
you get "take it to the dealer" you say "He's here, he says you have to
deal with it, you talk to him" and hand the phone over.

If you don't want the mobile bills, go to the dealer and say "Really?
They said you had to do it. Let's phone 'em up now eh?", reach over to
their phone and start dialling.

Zebee

[alx]

ahahah ... the clutch levers are same manufacturer as for Japanese bikes.

Post by corks
gaaah what a fuggen night

\

Post by corks
where we then put levers back on srv and i go to jcs (dealer) in the
morning to have a grumble about the quality of triumph clutch levers
not happy
anybody else has a lying neutral light ?????

[ck]

Post by alx
ahahah ... the clutch levers are same manufacturer as for Japanese bikes.

designed for engaging/disengaging the clutch, not slapping the bitumen at a
strange angle

[corks]

how fucken rude is this

Hello Dave

I am not surprised that the Thruxton clutch lever broke as it is not
designed to take the forces that would be applied whilst trying to
control a falling motorcycle.



It is always the rider's responsibility to be sure that the bike is in
neutral and that the clutch is disengaged. A Thruxton is designed so the
starter should not engage with the clutch released; as such it would
follow that you should naturally disengage it prior to starting.



From a safety standard view you have the opportunity and the obligation
to perform the following actions prior to starting the machine.



1. Check the gear position (regardless of indicator light)

2. Disengage the clutch

3. Sit on the motorcycle to provide a stable platform and allow
better control of the machine.

4. Apply the brake to prevent the machine from moving forward.



It is clear that you have failed to do any of these and therefore you
must accept full liability for the resultant damages. Just as you would
not reach through an open window to start your car, you should not take
a similar risk when starting your motorcycle.



If a fault can be found with the neutral switch and or clutch switch
these will be repaired under warranty.



As always, I wish to support you as a Triumph owner. This case however
is not within the realm of warranty other than to check the function of
the starters lock out circuit and repair any fault(s) that are
identified.



Best Regards





Mike Hennessy

Triumph Motorcycles Australia

Technical Warranty Manager

[corks]

Dear Mike

The clutch lever was simply pull back to the bar to disenage the clutch as
the bike contrary to twhat the neutral sadi was still in gear.

The bike was not falling as i was standing beside it and all the bike did
was simply jump forward amd I took the weight of the bike on my left
leg/body.

Thank you having ridden for nearly 19 years i am quite aware of my
responsibilities

I have owned the Thruxton since 10/6/2005 and not had a problem with it
until last night.

The bike WAS supposedly in neutral according to neutral light which had not
failed before and the bike should not have started 1. if it was in gear
which according to the neutral light it was not and 2. if the bike was in
gear with the side stand down.

The bike was parked and left in gear for safety reasons and i moved the bike
into neutral resulting in a audible click and the neutral light coming on.

"It would be a reasonable assumption to any person or court that it the
neutral light is on then the bike is in neutral."

re your safety checks - curiously I note they are not listed in the owners
manual and find your car starting analogy insulting.

"As always, I wish to support you as a Triumph owner. This case however
is not within the realm of warranty other than to check the function of
the starters lock out circuit and repair any fault(s) that are identified."

I acknowledge your response regarding getting the neutral switch and clutch
switch.

Actually without being rude, I find your lack of support and understanding
in this matter quite disappointing, I am not trying to blame Triumph
or you for what happened nor am I trying to rip anyone off however you seem
to have jumped immediately on the defensive.
I have simply raised this matter as i feel the bike showed itself to be a
state when it was safe to start it when in fact was not and the clutch lever
has snapped, without in my opinion undue stress.

As a first time Triumph owner on a brand new Triumph motorcycle with less
than 1200 km, this incident leaves me with a bitter taste in my mouth.


Regards

Dave

Post by corks
how fucken rude is this
Hello Dave
I am not surprised that the Thruxton clutch lever broke as it is not
designed to take the forces that would be applied whilst trying to
control a falling motorcycle.
It is always the rider's responsibility to be sure that the bike is in
neutral and that the clutch is disengaged. A Thruxton is designed so the
starter should not engage with the clutch released; as such it would
follow that you should naturally disengage it prior to starting.
From a safety standard view you have the opportunity and the obligation
to perform the following actions prior to starting the machine.
1. Check the gear position (regardless of indicator light)
2. Disengage the clutch
3. Sit on the motorcycle to provide a stable platform and allow
better control of the machine.
4. Apply the brake to prevent the machine from moving forward.
It is clear that you have failed to do any of these and therefore you
must accept full liability for the resultant damages. Just as you would
not reach through an open window to start your car, you should not take
a similar risk when starting your motorcycle.
If a fault can be found with the neutral switch and or clutch switch
these will be repaired under warranty.
As always, I wish to support you as a Triumph owner. This case however
is not within the realm of warranty other than to check the function of
the starters lock out circuit and repair any fault(s) that are
identified.
Best Regards
Mike Hennessy
Triumph Motorcycles Australia
Technical Warranty Manager

[Loz]

Post by corks
Dear Mike
(to paraphrase:) Get your hand off it, tosser.
Regards
Dave

Keep at it mate, give him hell. It's not a company you're dealing with,
it's just a person and a knobber at that.

[Knobdoodle]

...the bike contrary to twhat the neutral sadi was still in gear.....

Gee; and he had trouble understanding you did he scrote?
--
Clem

[john doe]

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Post by corks
how fucken rude is this
Hello Dave
I am not surprised that the Thruxton clutch lever broke as it is not
designed to take the forces that would be applied whilst trying to
control a falling motorcycle.

aren't triumph just a poorly concieved copy of a good jap bike?

[Knobdoodle]

Post by john doe
aren't triumph just a poorly concieved copy of a good jap bike?

~
I think the Thruxton would be a poorly concieved copy of a good BRIT bike
if anything!
--
Clem

[john doe]

Post by Knobdoodle

Post by john doe
aren't triumph just a poorly concieved copy of a good jap bike?

~
I think the Thruxton would be a poorly concieved copy of a good BRIT bike
if anything!
--
Clem

i thought the thruxton was a copy of the venerable yamaha xs650?

[sharkey]

Post by Knobdoodle

Post by john doe
aren't triumph just a poorly concieved copy of a good jap bike?

~
I think the Thruxton would be a poorly concieved copy of a good BRIT bike
if anything!

Nah, it's clearly a copy of a W650 ... which is just half a
copy of a GPZ900, and thus only half a Classic.

-----sharks